What's up, guys? So today on the podcast, we have, I'm going to probably butcher his last name, Nick Grigriatus. So he, he's a guy that originally I saw on, he had a website, Jiu-Jitsu Brotherhood. I'm sure it may be still be up to be up there and, you know, was doing some of that stuff back. It was like, you know, putting up a blog and stuff like way back in like 20, 2009, 2010 long time ago.

And, you know, he's been around for a long time.

And we, uh, we ended up having on the podcast today.

And the, especially the beginning of the podcast is not really going to be, um, much

jitzy related at all.

I mean, there's a little bit of an attachment to there.

But, you know, whenever we get someone on, I start kind of getting interested in sometimes

because obviously we're all the same.

We all have probably a wide variety of interests.

And some of the interests that he has, I share as well, like things such as rights of passage and ritual

and, you know, the development of men, like what it means to be a man in society, all these

types of things.

You know, I think those are interesting questions to play with.

And so we get into a little bit of that and then obviously we bring it back to Jiu-Jitsu.

So, I mean, really, it's nothing you guys aren't used to before.

I mean, because random tangents is kind of the name of the game.

You know, we, we nestled into a nice little jiu-jitsu covering,

but there's a lot of random tangents.

So we're going to get into a lot of that here in the podcast. Hopefully we can have them one again and talk to them a little bit more in

depth because obviously an hour, which is the case with most of the guests, an hour is not

enough time to speak with these people about a lot of the subjects that we could dive into them with.

But that said, at the same time, I like keeping the podcast relatively short because, again,

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