Welcome, my buddy, Chris O'Connell and friends. We got an awesome episode this week. We're super excited to have in studio Joy Ann Reed. Hello. Thank you so much for joining us. I was really looking forward to this conversation. Same here. I'm really glad that we can make this happen. It is so good to see. I love you, I think you're great.

But this is my girl.

It's like a reunion of the Ms. Now family. Because it's not MSNBC anymore. I still like that is so weird for me to wrap my head around. And yeah, there's a little time. We'll get into all that MSNBC stuff. Absolutely. I'm curious your view of like the different eras at MSNBC as well.

So, yeah. It's changed a lot. get into all the MSNBC stuff. Absolutely. I'm curious your view of like the different eras at MSNBC as well.

So yeah.

It's changed a lot.

Yes.

There have been evolutions over the years for sure.

But before we get to that, there's not much going on this week though.

No.

So there's not really not much to talk about.

So how you got a chance to look at the Epstein book, the whole Epstein book?

I did. I did. What the fuck? What the fuck? What the actual? Like the one that got me was the one where it's the picture. It says it's like Epstein in 1983 and he's holding balloons and there's little girls. This is the one that is the creepiest of all. I mean, I thought the Trump one was, was gross. With the check, right? With the check or the letter? No, no, no, the one with the signature. The sketch with the signature. The naked lady. Okay. Naked lady or a pre-pubescent girl. Right. A pre-pubescent girl. But the one with the ham off to the side with the balloon kids, it's too on the nose, right? I mean, and it's, and then you've got the massaging ladies

over the other side.

There's one where there's balloon kids, it's too on the nose, right?

I mean, and it's, and then you've got the massaging ladies over the other side.

There's one where there's a woman that seems to be crying out to the heavens and he's on the table getting a massage.

I mean, so everyone understood what he was.

They all thought it was funny.

And to me, it speaks to the absolute devaluing of women and girls in this

country. They just do not care about them at all. I mean, I think to me, the most disturbing thing

was honestly, like, the totality of it. Yeah. Because as you look through it, when I saw the Trump one

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