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At Last She Said It

Episode 242: Are You There God? It's Us, Susan and Cynthia | Part 2

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5900 Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

No matter what language we use to describe the Divine, for spiritual seekers the hope is that our understanding and connection will continue to expand and deepen. As Richard Rohr reminds us, "God is always bigger than the boxes we build for God, so we should not spend too much time protecting the boxes." In Episode 242, Cynthia and Susan take another look at the spaces where their own 'god-boxes' used to be: It's two women getting personal about what's new, what's not, and where and how they're seeking communion and/or communication now.

Transcript

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0:00.0

So once you let God be a weeping God, then it's sort of pandemonium, actually, if you think about it,

0:09.8

like, what are you going to tell me next? That God thinks love is the most important thing. But again,

0:15.9

to me, like, here's the brilliance of Jesus as the example. Because in Jesus, we see, you know, we actually see several different places in the scriptures a God weeping.

0:28.7

And so I don't really know how it could be made more plain than that.

0:32.9

And yet, I do feel like, and Latter-day Saints are not exempt from this, I do feel like human beings have

0:38.9

a natural aversion to that. We want God to be somehow more omnipotent, more powerful.

0:49.3

Hello, I'm Susan Hinkley. And I'm Cynthia Winward.

0:53.8

And this is at last she said it.

0:55.7

We are women of faith discussing complicated things.

0:58.5

And the title of today's episode is, Are You There, God?

1:02.1

It's us, Susan and Cynthia, part two.

1:06.4

Woo-hoo!

1:07.7

Yay!

1:10.2

I love this topic so much.

1:12.5

I'm so glad we're revisiting it.

1:14.2

Yeah.

1:14.6

I mean, we were just laughing before we signed on that we have 10 pages of notes.

1:18.8

And it's because we love this topic so much.

1:21.9

I know.

1:22.5

I know.

1:22.6

I can't wait.

1:24.2

Yeah.

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