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For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

But we wanted to know, what does that mean?

And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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Subscribe now. What's up everybody and welcome to episode episode 241 of the Talking Shot podcast.

I am your host, Brad Rowland.

It is a special time.

It's Tuesday afternoon.

I am not on my computer as normal, but hopefully that will be all right.

And I'm doing all of this because anytime you can have this person on the podcast,

it is worth jumping through all the hoops.

And that person is Zach Diller.

Hello, sir.

I appreciate the hoop jumping.

241.

That's a lot of episodes.

I think I've been a part of a few of those.

But no, it's good to be back.

And obviously, a lot to talk about with today's news.

Absolutely.

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