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Subscribe now. What's up everybody and welcome to episode 240 of Talking Chop podcast.

I'm your host, Brad Rowland.

It is Friday evening late into the night here.

And usually when it's late in the night, I am joined by West Coast correspondent Scott Coleman.

Hello, sir.

Hey, Brad.

Thanks for having me on.

We've been doing these a couple of years now.

And I don't think I've ever spent my Friday night with

you. So this is a, this is a rare treat. Yeah, candidly, I'm pretty sure that at least one of us,

if not both of us, if there was not a pandemic going on, would not be available on Labor Day

weekend Friday night. But because I'm not traveling, I don't know about you, but I'm,

we're hanging around and there was a crazy amount of baseball that happened today, and I figured that it would be good to have people,

maybe have, people will be traveling in the next day or two, might want some podcast listening

to past the time in the car. Also, this is a good time for us to record because there was a

doubleheader and just looking ahead

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