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I'm Victor and joining me is Daniel Errin Dylger from W. W. D.C.

Good morning from San Jose.

How is San Jose?

That's quite nice.

It got pretty hot, so no need to wear a jacket most of the time.

Except inside the conference hall, some of them are refrigerated to the point of needing

to put on the jacket. Wow, well at least they gave out jackets, right?

Yeah, they had like a bomber jacket and there's several different kinds.

These one has a different color.

It's a similar print, but it's a different primary color so it makes everybody kind of brightly a bright bunch of people.

Yeah but that's not what listeners are here for right that's that's not one of our audiences talking about is the

jacket because what they really want to know about is what the heck is going on

there, right? We saw this very very big cheese grater Mac Pro we saw the monitor and the monitor stand and a whole bunch of other things.

So let's start talking about that. Tell me about the Mac Pro.

Well Apple took I mean WVC is obviously for developers. It's where this whole conference of they're talking about what's new and their new operating systems. And the reason why the pro was announced is hardware. It's not common that there's hardware released, but this is a product

that Apple hasn't updated again since 2014, I think. And there were several years

where it was the can size,

which I think everybody realizes sort of a mistake.

I mean, they created this product

that was almost like a consumer product.

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