You know, I'm a human rights lawyer.

I live in a two-bedroom apartment in Manhattan with my wife and son, as you know.

I don't have $60 billion.

I don't have a million dollars.

Okay.

I'm a human rights guy.

And but again, like they knew they would never get anything close to that for me, but they

did it because of the symbolic meaning to try to intimidate others who might think about joining

our case or just doing this work.

They don't want lawyers doing what I did.

You know, and they think by attacking me, they're going to discourage other lawyers from doing

the same, but I don't think it's going to work. The

The All right.

It truly is a pleasure to be joined again on Bad Faith podcast by Stephen Donsinger.

You guys are all very aware of his story.

Not only has he come on this podcast in the past,

you've probably seen him on multiple left platforms talking about the real rank injustice of how he has been treated for the crime of securing a historically large judgment against Chevron, originally at Texaco, for their unconscionable levels of pollution and the rainforest of Ecuador.

Welcome back, Stephen.

Thank you for having me.

I really appreciate it.

So I want to talk to you a little bit.

It gives an update on what post-house arrest, post-prison sentence life has been like for you.

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