Welcome to the Bear Marriage Podcast, I'm Sheila Ray Gregoer from Bear Marriage.com where we like to talk about healthy evidence-based biblical advice for your sex life and your marriage. And I'm back from vacation.

We took May off because we had to frantically finish up some edits from our new marriage book, The Marriage You Want, which will be out next April in 2025.

Sorry, we don't have it too for you earlier.

And then Keith and I took a vacation,

a much needed one with my mom, and it was wonderful.

And I just came back really refreshed

and a lot more optimistic. I think I've been really

sad for a long time because of the fight that we're in and the condition of the evangelical church and I just realized you know things are

really changing I just hear such wonderful things from so many people every

day and we're making a difference and that doesn't mean that

everything's going to change but there's a huge movement happening and I just

feel like yeah we're finally getting through so I think I turned a corner my mental health is a ton better and I'm really looking forward to the podcast that we have for you for the rest of the season. And today's is another kind of optimistic one because

there's a bunch of new books coming out on healthy male sexuality and healthy masculinity

in the Christian context. and today we are going to

interview Sam Jolman who has just written an awesome book on just that topic.

So here is Sam. Well I am so thrilled to bring to our podcast today Sam Jolman, who is a licensed counselor

from Colorado Springs and who has a new book that launches tomorrow called The Sex Talk You Never never got reclaiming the heart of masculine

sexuality. Hi Sam. Hi Sheila, thank you for having me on. I am so excited.

I am really honestly excited about this book. You gave me the opportunity to read an early copy so thank you for that. I think I read it like what almost a year ago or in the fall or you let you read it last fall and you gave me the honor of being an early reader where you could actually give feedback yet.

Yeah. Which was so helpful.

I wanted your thoughts and reflections on that.

Yes, I remember that and I gave you an endorsement because I... I wanted your thoughts and reflections on that.

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