Episode 232: Judith Johnson and Brooke Sutton | Hidden in Plain Sight
True Crime Couple
True Crime Couple Podcast
4.7 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2026
⏱️ 102 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
The stillness of the hot June morning in Barberton, OH was broken by the creaking of floorboards beneath the small feet of a six year old girl. She was unsure of what had happened or what she had suffered, she just knew she was scared. As she searched the home she was in, the brutality of the previous night revealed itself to her. Just hours earlier she had been laughing with her beloved grandmother and now she lay dead at her feet. Someone had slipped in their home in the middle of the night and destroyed a family’s world.
And yet, the most haunting part of this story wouldn’t be the bloodshed itself, it would be the years that followed. Because the little girl who staggered through the neighborhood at sunrise, traumatized and barely alive, carried with her the only account of what happened inside that house. Her words would shape the investigation, divide a family, and eventually help lead to justice because the killer had always been right there…
Sources:
https://www.newspapers.com/image/296313955/?match=1&terms=Clarence%20elkins
https://www.newspapers.com/image/297064102/?match=1&terms=Clarence%20elkins
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32300943/judith_ann-johnson
https://www.cleveland19.com/story/6729058/prisoner-indicted-in-1998-murder-case/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wifes-detective-work-frees-hubby/
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/lkl/date/2005-12-26/segment/01
https://web.archive.org/web/20140715131515/http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17562131/ns/dateline_nbc-killer_instinct/t/killer-instinct/#.U63PM_boct4
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-ohnd-5_06-cv-03004/pdf/USCOURTS-ohnd-5_06-cv-03004-2.pdf
https://lawlit.net/adcrimlaw4/images/elkins_timeline-1.pdf
https://www.newspapers.com/image/1075753446/?match=1&terms=earl%20mann
https://magazine.uc.edu/editors_picks/recent_features/Innocence/elkins.html
https://content.next.westlaw.com/Document/Ice513343a49311df952a80d2993fba83/View/FullText.html?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)
https://innocenceproject.org/cases/clarence-elkins/
https://law.justia.com/cases/ohio/ninth-district-court-of-appeals/2003/2003-ohio-4522.html
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/5914b1beadd7b0493475b518
https://web.archive.org/web/20140403061401/http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/forensics/ff313_clarence_elkins/4.html
https://abcnews.com/US/hicks-baby-adoptee-sold-georgia-doctor-50-years/story?id=32743492
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Hey guys, welcome to episode 232 of the True Crime Couple podcast. I'm Kay. And I'm John. We hope all is well |
| 0:07.8 | and that you're ready for another episode. Now, if you're new to Patreon, please stay tuned at the end of |
| 0:13.4 | the episode so we can give you a shout out and say a special thank you for joining our family. |
| 0:19.4 | And if you want ad-free episodes and two bonus episodes a month, |
| 0:24.5 | please go to patreon.com slash true crime couple. And that's it. That's all the housekeeping. So very |
| 0:31.3 | short and sweet. Because today, the case I have for you is a doozy. |
| 0:40.2 | So let's get into it as soon as possible. |
| 0:43.0 | John, do you want to hear something crazy? |
| 0:43.7 | Of course. |
| 0:48.6 | The stillness of the hot June morning in Baberton, Ohio, |
| 0:55.1 | was broken by the creaking of floorboards beneath the small feet of a six-year-old girl. |
| 1:00.5 | She was unsure of what had happened or what she had suffered. |
| 1:03.6 | She just knew that she was scared. |
| 1:10.6 | As she searched the home she was in, the brutality of the previous night revealed itself to her. Just hours earlier, she had been |
| 1:13.4 | laughing with her beloved grandmother, and now she lay dead at her feet. Someone had slipped in their |
| 1:20.3 | home in the middle of the night and destroyed a family's world. And yet the most haunting part of |
| 1:27.4 | this story wouldn't be the bloodshed itself. |
| 1:31.0 | It would be the years that followed. Because the little girl who staggered through the neighborhood |
| 1:36.8 | at sunrise, traumatized and barely alive, carried with her the only account of what happened inside the house. |
| 1:45.0 | Her words would shape the investigation, divide a family, and eventually help lead to justice, |
| 1:53.0 | because the killer had always been right there. |
| 1:58.0 | Police say the suspect, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer has confessed to the killings of 11 people |
... |
Transcript will be available on the free plan in 26 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from True Crime Couple Podcast, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of True Crime Couple Podcast and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

