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Coming Out Pod

Episode 228: Lily Zheng

Coming Out Pod

Coming Out Pod

Health & Fitness, Sexuality, Comedy, Mental Health

4.9584 Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

In the past couple of years, the term "DEI" has started popping up *a lot* online, to the point where Googling just those three letters turns up hundreds of hits! However, you would not be alone in admitting that you maybe don't exactly know what DEI...like...is. Fortunately, Lily Zheng (author of the recently-published "DEI Deconstructed: Your No-Nonsense Guide to Doing the Work and Doing It Right") is here to explain everything; not only in layperson's terms, but from a queer perspective! In an incredibly wide-reaching conversation, Lily (they/them) explains how both the acronym "LGBT" and the phrase "people of color" originated as solidarity terms, and demolishes the maddening argument that "it's actually *harder* to be a straight white man right now..." (complete with factual data you can share with all the butthurt people in your life!). Plus, Lauren tells a story that demonstrates why you should NEVER host a tequila drinking contest in your college apartment!

Check out https://lilyzheng.co/home/ for more info on Lily (including links to all of their books!), and connect with them on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lilyzheng308/.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. Welcome. This is coming out with Lauren and Nicole. We are a weekly podcast where we have on queer folks from all walks of life. They tell us the tales of how they came out to friends, family, and the world at large. You may be at home

0:23.0

or in your car or wherever you are. I don't know your life. You may be thinking, wow,

0:27.2

Nicole is doing a phenomenal Lauren impression this morning. Fooled you. That was me doing

0:35.5

the intro solo. Nicole sends her regrets to all of you out there

0:41.5

listening. Laif is, he's not, nobody worry, he's not seriously sick, but he is the kind of sick

0:49.4

where you have to stay home from daycare. I'm not saying he has diarrhea, but I'm not saying that he has diarrhea if you get my drift.

1:00.2

But the point is, I am solo today, and Nicole sends her love and is doing a copious amount

1:07.9

of wiping and cleaning at the moment.

1:11.0

But anyway, if you haven't turned this off already because of how graphic that was,

1:16.5

I am here today with Lily Zhang.

1:20.4

Hello, Lily.

1:21.9

Hey, it's great to be here.

1:23.6

Thanks for having me.

1:24.8

Thank you so much for being here.

1:26.6

So, Lily is an author and

1:30.0

DEI consultant. If you've listened to the podcast for a while, you have heard us throw

1:35.6

around the term DEI. DEI stands for diversity, equity, and inclusion. And it is what I would

1:43.3

call like, it's very much like a buzzy term that came

1:46.9

into the lexicon a number of years ago. And now you see it, you see it in a lot of articles, you hear

1:53.0

people talking about it. But we're really going to dive into what it actually means today, what it's

2:00.3

actually trying to accomplish.

2:01.9

Is it accomplishing what it's trying to accomplish? All this good stuff. Because Lily had a book

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