Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Deep Program.

Today, we are without J.T.

Our lovely J.T.

He has organizational things to manage for his family for some trip that's upcoming.

So that's why.

And yes, yes, he's going to be airdropping him and his family.

We're going to be air dropping on Kargai Island.

What was I going to say

yeah today's

today's episode will be much more lighter

than our usual and that's because of

exactly what Yugo said

we have kind of been hovering over

some heavier topics recently

and I want us to kind of

yeah

like you shoot the shit a little bit and relax.

And the way I want to do this is to discuss, I mean, both my background and Hugo's background

and the jobs that we had chosen prior, of course, to doing the podcasting thing, how would that

have looked like, had we not had the stressors of

capitalism? And this kind of too, the more I read and the more I like investigate or explore

Marxism, the more I realize that the most difficult thing really is, and this is going to sound

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