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C EE. C EE. K slash claims. And this is life after Emile, a podcast where we worked and the stigma

of failure in an industry systemically designed for you to fail.

Join us as we dive into the real life stories of survivors, experts, and advocates as we debug the common myths and fallacies of colts, frauds, scams, and multi-level marketing. Oh, Oh, the Hey, Humbots and Hunbuds and Humbrows. We've got a fun episode today.

We are going back into the world of MLM with one of our discord members, Curtis Waldron, you might

know him as Kurt Wald.

He is in there and we have such a fantastic time in all of the watch parties and he is such just a beloved

member of the discord. So for everybody over in the discord, the episode is

here, it's Curtis's episode. We're so excited we have been teasing it for like weeks talking about

especially like when Kayla was editing it and she would like throw some sneak peaks in

and then when I was editing it and it was just it is hilarious It's just a really good time. One of the funniest

episodes I think we've ever had on life after Emm. This episode shows the

ridiculous of multi-level marketing just so perfectly and I know sometimes after we have heavy episodes like Scientology

Although Mark and Claire's episode was pretty light and fun too.

Sometimes you just gotta laugh right so you don't cry or pull your

hair out and I think this is one of those perfect episodes that just really

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