Hi, this is Jonathan Lehman.

And this is Mark Devere.

And welcome to Nine Marks Pastors Talk.

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And to glorify God.

Amen.

Today we're going to talk about humor in pastoral ministry.

And with me, I have two of the funnier people I know.

Ben.

Is that really true?

Or you just trotting that out because this is what the interview is.

Well, Alex wrote it in my notes here, so I'm just reading that.

It's true.

I am one of the funniest people Alex knows.

That's a certainty.

Ben, you think you're pretty funny? I don't know. Maybe. Ben is an assistant pastor here.

Currently. At Capitol Baptist. Yes, sir. But in a month or so, he's going to be going to Fort Worth,

Texas. Here you're about to get fired and promoted. Amen. That's right. And he is a funny man. I think you're a funny man.

Thank you, Jonathan.

And do you think Mark is funny?

Sometimes when it's directed at other people, not me.

Yes, Mark is very funny.

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