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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 221: GWOT Shots, Part Deux

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

And we're back, with yet another interminable window of extemporaneous frivolity at the front end of what otherwise is a somewhat serious show about the latest national security law developments and debates (seriously). Listen up as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss Russia's denial of combatant immunity to foreign fighters in Ukraine (including some Americans), how this pertains to mercenary status, how it compares to US policies on al Qaeda and Taliban fighters, how this in turn relates to the Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi plea deal at GTMO, how speaking of GTMO they transferred Gul to Afghanistan, and hey speaking of the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) there was a capture operation in Syria that seems like it was led by US SOF but who knows who now holds the detainee let alone what legal framework applies and hey maybe it was France because it seems like they've got their own Le GWOT going in the Sahel to include drone strikes taking out several dozen guys on motorcycles plus they also had a capture operation, and [...catching my breath...] meanwhile Steve lost a case about court-appointed prosecutors but maybe that's not the last word because that dissent made some good points.  [EXHALE]

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 221 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:14.6

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center, the University of Texas.

0:18.2

It's Monday night, June 27th, 2022. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Lodick. You are

0:23.7

way too happy. Well, it's been a long day of deaning. Fair enough. And here we are talking on our

0:31.1

podcast. So I guess it could be worse. Exactly. When you said, hey, let's close the night out by

0:36.1

my meeting up for a recording.

0:37.7

I thought, you know what?

0:39.0

That's the best thing I will do all day.

0:41.6

And no Mets game to distract us.

0:44.6

Exactly.

0:46.4

So I feel like we should apologize up front for the immediate baseball talk.

0:50.1

But here it comes.

0:51.0

Go Mets, go.

0:52.0

I mean, as long as the Mets are in first place,

0:54.5

you know, dear listeners, sorry. So those people from Atlanta are creeping in bit by bit.

1:01.0

I think as of this morning, it was what, four and a half games back. They're having to

1:04.8

month, but it's not enough yet. I think they're about, I think they lost it. So I think

1:09.7

it's back to five.

1:11.7

As it should be.

1:12.5

Okay, good.

1:20.5

Well, the fact that the Mets are pulling this off without, you know, not one but two of the greatest currently active, you know.

1:27.3

Yeah, it's nice to, it's nice to be on pace for 102 wins and know that you have two, you know,

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