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For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

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And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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Subscribe now. What's up everybody and welcome to episode 215 of the Talking Chop podcast.

I am your host, Brad Rowland.

It is Sunday night.

We're on a normal time slot and joining me as often.

The great Scott Coleman is here.

Hello, sir.

How's it going, Brad?

Thanks for having me on.

Hope you're doing well.

Hope everybody out there is doing well.

And happy Mother's Day to, it's all the moms out there. Yeah, it is still Mother's Day

as we were talking now later on my end as always than it is on Scott's end, but here we are

talking about some baseball stuff and some actual news, I will say, we're hoping, and we'll

talk about this more as we get going here. We're probably hoping for some more clear news,

maybe in the next few days on one of the

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