I'm Ashley C. Ford, and I host Into the Mix, a Ben & Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Vox Creative.

For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

But we wanted to know, what does that mean?

And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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Subscribe now. What's up everybody and welcome to episode 214 of the Talking Chop podcast. I am your host, Brad Rowland.

It is a Wednesday.

Not exactly our normal time.

It's not really an emergency podcast, but there's a little bit of stuff to talk about right now.

And what I would say is a rare occurrence, not super rare, but certainly rare.

I have both Eric Cole and Scott Coleman on this podcast with me.

Hello, gentlemen, and do not talk over each other.

It's always the challenge on a three-man podcast.

It's the Cole podcast.

I'm all here for it.

It's been a while since we've had all three of us on, so it should be fun.

Yeah, we usually save the Scott and Eric podcast for like playoffs or something crazy happening,

or Scott and I are bored but yeah no i'm actually

really excited to talk some baseball because like there's both stuff to talk about and honestly like

when i have the i have the kids at home with i mean my wife's a teacher so she's working from home

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