Episode 207: Pearls Are In the Eye of the Beholder

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2021

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

It's been a long summer break for the podcast, but we're back! Tune in today as Professors Chesney and Vladeck discuss and debate: AUMF reform prospects (2001 AUMF in particular) Ongoing uncertainty as to the fate of the Presidential Policy Guidance re use of lethal force outside areas of active hostilities Litigation exploring whether a unanimous panel should be required in courts-martial A semi-deep dive into Jacobson, the 1905 Supreme Court case that upheld a local mandatory vaccination order (targeting smallpox) in the face of what we would today describe as a substantive due process fundamental rights/liberty claim. How about that CDC rent-moratorium extension? And, yes, we lament the apparent collapse of the Mets, while also recommending some good books and podcasts!

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0:00.0	Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 207 of the National Security Law podcast.
0:14.0	We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.
0:18.0	It's Wednesday, August 11, 2021. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Vlodick and Bobby, we're in the same
0:24.4	town. Welcome back. How was your road trip? Long. You rode by yourself? Yeah, I mean, so,
0:32.7	so we started like way, way northern Vermont, like basically touching Canada um I drove the girls to
0:39.6	Newark so the first like 320 miles were all of us and then they flew from Newark to Austin and I
0:48.1	kept going okay tell me about your route where did you go through uh fromark let's see I took I 78 to I
0:59.0	81 I was on I a East Coast version of the Californians yes I was on I 81 for a very very very very very very
1:07.0	very very long time from through, Maryland, West Virginia,
1:13.5	Virginia, and well into Tennessee.
1:15.8	And now are you, I'm trying to imagine it.
1:18.0	Do you have like all your guilty pleasure music singing at the top of your lungs or is it
1:22.9	podcasts all the time or are you taking phone calls from reporters or something?
1:29.3	You know, Sunday, so the first, the first day was this was Sunday so I didn't do a lot of reporter stuff um I I went a
1:35.3	different route I had not planned this but I decided um somewhere in North in in central Virginia
1:41.8	somewhere around Harrisonburg, Virginia.
1:47.6	I'm driving past Bobby all the Civil War stuff, right?
1:52.4	Like, I literally drove past where the northern most advance of Lee's Army.
1:54.2	And then you drive past Antietam.
1:57.9	And then you drive past the Shenandoah and the Battle of the Blue Ridge.
1:59.8	And it's like, you know what I need?
2:02.4	I need a good Civil War podcast.
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