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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 206: This Podcast Is Not a State Actor

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2021

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

[Updated to fix the audio issue with the original file...though I have to admit, it was very entertaining to hear the hosts speaking an octave too low!)  We're back with another round of discussion and debate featuring co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney, working through the latest national security law developments. Tune in for: The end of the decade-long run of General Mark Martins as Chief Prosecutor at GTMO The interagency debate within the Biden Administration regarding whether to concede that the Due Process Clause applies to GTMO detainees (either in the habeas context or more broadly), in connection with the al-Hela litigation currently pending before the en banc D.C. Circuit Interstate deployments (without federalization) of state national guard forces, and the state-level separation-of-powers issues arguably raised by private funding of NG activities OLC's opinion on the removal power New life for the US effort to extradite Julian Assange from the UK Donald Trump attempting to invoke the First Amendment as the basis for a civil action challenging the actions of (private) social-media companies Brief notes on the parallel between the so-far-unsuccessful efforts to deter both attacks on US forces in Iraq and ransomware attacks emanating from Russia And as always, there's much frivolity both at the start and the finish!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 206 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:14.3

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:17.9

It's Monday night.

0:19.2

It's July 12th.

0:20.4

It's 2021. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Lodick. I am not in Austin.

0:25.8

Where in the world, to borrow something you know about, where in the world is Steve Latic?

0:31.1

Hello from Richmond, Massachusetts. I put that on the map for us. I will admit to not knowing

0:35.8

precisely where something in the Berkshire.

0:37.6

What? How is that possible? Yes, Brookshire County. So if you are not Massachusetts geography

0:42.7

experts, the westernmost county in Massachusetts, which runs all the way from the Vermont

0:47.3

state line to the Connecticut state line, is Brookshire County. And Richmond is, I don't know,

0:53.4

I would say about a third, two thirds of the way down from Vermont to Connecticut on the western side. So actually Richmond borders up against New York State.

1:02.3

So is this a community that is full of people like yourselves who sort of decamp for the summer? Or is it like all the townies are staring daggers at you? If you walk down

1:11.5

the street, you know, doing things that somehow don't pass whatever normally goes on?

1:16.5

A little bit of both. I mean, I think so Richmond is not quite as much of a sort of, how do I say,

1:24.8

vacation hometown. We're sort of on the southeast edge of Richmond, but, you know,

1:29.5

we're one town over from Lennox, which really is very vacation and tourist driven. And actually

1:35.6

Tanglewood is between us. So that's really cool. That's cool. So I think, you know, I'll put it this way.

1:41.0

I have seen other Texas license plates. Ask you about the license plate, whether that's, you know, draws up. I assume nothing but compliments and.

1:49.4

Oh, yes. They love the Texans here in Western Massachusetts.

1:53.9

Awesome.

1:55.1

But yes, we are, as I think I mentioned on the last episode, we are here for five weeks to get a little bit away from Austin.

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