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Episode 205 Promo - COVID Reckoning? (w/ Robby Soave & Walker Bragman)

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News, Comedy, Politics

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2022

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

This week, Briahna invites her libertarian Rising co-host Robbie Soave to have a good faith conversation about the limits of COVID policy. He's joined by journalist and co-founder of Opt Out Media Walker Bragman, who has been covering what he argues is a failure of the government to offer mitigation interventions that could save thousands of lives. Has the left conceded unnecessary ground to the right as it dismisses libertarian concerns about mask mandates and vaccines? Is it unrealistic to keep schools closed with limited child care support for parents, and education delays holding kids back? Or is that a false trade off given how little has been done to make returning to school as safe as it could be, with clear masks, ventilators, and testing? This might be the good-est faith conversation about the failures and limits of COVID policy you've heard yet.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.
Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)

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0:00.0

I'm not really that concerned about vaccine mandates. I'll be honest. I think it's just

0:03.8

because we require things like the polio vaccine for public schools. Like it's very, very

0:07.7

basic stuff. Like what is different about this shot from that shot? We know that this is a safe,

0:13.5

effective way to prevent severe illness and death. I'm talking to a mother right now for a

0:19.9

podcast that I'm working on about COVID who lost her 10-year-old daughter. She could not get vaccinated.

0:25.2

The healthy 10-year-old girl died in five or six days. Like this, that outcome is so

0:32.1

atrocious and so repugnant to me. Yeah, I think that at a certain point, people's hesitancy,

0:38.6

it just requires leadership. It requires federal leadership.

0:41.4

I mean, the difference between this vaccine and the polio vaccine, and correctly, if I'm wrong,

0:47.1

is that those vaccines which are required do prevent outbreaks of that disease,

0:52.8

whereas this vaccine, unfortunately, does not. I wish that it did. I'm vaccinated. I advocate for

1:00.2

people to get vaccinated. I don't have any problem with vaccines or vaccination. The decision to get

1:05.0

vaccinated seems to me like a good one for a whole lot of people. I don't have kids. If I had them,

1:11.2

I might vaccinate them. I would certainly talk to a doctor. I think it's the right choice,

1:15.7

probably for a lot of families and a lot of young people, certainly young people with underlying

1:19.7

health conditions. I'm not discouraging vaccination whatsoever. And if it was the case,

1:26.0

that by vaccinating kids at the school, you were going to have a significant less likelihood

1:32.8

of an outbreak of COVID in the school, that would be a pretty compelling, you're right.

1:37.4

And we do require vaccinations for schools. I think that would be a pretty compelling effort

1:41.2

to do that. Early on, when vaccines were coming out, unlike other restrictions, I was more

1:47.4

theoretically at least philosophically okay with a vaccine mandate under certain circumstances,

1:53.8

because we do have a history of requiring constitutionally. It's stood up. Now, I disagreed with

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