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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 202: Back in Steve’s Office

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Recording episode 202 was something of a milestone for us, because we met in Steve's office for an in-person recording for the first time since Before.  Wow!  We're grateful to be back in the "studio," and we found it was a much-more fun experience for us.  See if you can detect the difference as we talk about A GTMO military commission ruling construing the Military Commissions Act prohibition on the admissibility of information derived from torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment to apply only as to offers of evidence in the trial setting, not to pre-trial motion practice (at least where the statement in question is not offered for the truth of the matter asserted). The judicial carousel at the mil coms prepares to spin again. The sentence-reduction agreement in the Majid Khan case, which will (as that label suggests!) reduce his sentence in exchange for Khan giving up on his effort to secure testimony regarding his treatment while in CIA custody. Some brief comments on the Gaza situation. Noting that Matt Olsen will be nominated to replace John Demers as the head of DOJ's National Security Division, continuing the tradition of excellent leadership in that office. We also have all sorts of utterly frivolous thoughts about Top Gun and the Top Gun sequel, as well as Marvel's plan for a Star Lord-focused scripted podcast series set in a dystopian non-cinematic universe timeline. Can't wait!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 202 of the National Security Law podcast, brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:17.9

It's Thursday, May 20th, 2021.

0:20.8

I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Vladiv. This is weird.

0:24.6

Hey, there you are. There you are. Right there across from me. I know. We're in the office.

0:30.2

We're in the same room. We are back in the National Security Law Podcast studio, also known as

0:36.3

Steve's office, for the first time since it all

0:39.8

went down long ago in the time before. Down it went in the before times. Wow. This is nice.

0:46.0

I know. It's like I don't have to worry about like Zencaster. We're recording directly into my

0:50.2

computer. I'll be curious to hear the sound difference. I'd be curious to know if people think it sounds different.

0:56.1

But wow, this is weird.

0:57.6

Hello.

0:58.7

It's the Tanglemorian and Rent.

1:04.4

This is weird.

1:05.3

It's weird.

1:05.9

Very weird.

1:07.1

We should have planned that so we could sing it properly.

1:09.3

Not that that stopped you from singing it.

1:11.2

No.

1:12.2

I'm so mad that I don't know what to do.

1:14.5

Okay, anyway.

1:15.4

It's apropos, right?

1:16.4

Fighting with microphones freezing down to...

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