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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 201: Revels, Revolts, and Reduxes…Part Deux

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Our latest episode is shorter than normal because...well, we recorded most of it and then lost the file.  Suffice to say we were a bit tired by the time the re-recording was done!  Or maybe we're better off this way?  Either way, tune in for our thoughts on the DC Circuit's en banc grant in the al Hela GTMO detainee case (asking whether the Fifth Amendment Due Process Clause applies at GTMO), the ACLU's attempt to get SCOTUS to review a FISCOR decision relating to the ACLU's efforts to compel public release of FISC opinions on First Amendment grounds, and the recent FOIA-based release of the 2017 Trump administration changes to the 2013 Obama administration "PPG" rules on targeted kill/capture operations outside of areas of active hostilities.

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin. Welcome to episode 201 at the National Security Law Podcast. We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:18.0

Brought to you twice by the Strowson of Texas,

0:22.6

because we just recorded most of this episode and somehow lost the file.

0:29.2

And that means it's even later than it was before on Thursday night, May 6, 2021.

0:35.6

I'm still Bobby Chesney.

0:37.4

I'm still Steve Vladic. And, you know, one of the things that

0:39.6

we've now lost forever is the long discussion of how, you know, we have different habits when it

0:44.7

comes to time. So we're going to give sort of a, this is going to be a short episode, because now it's

0:50.0

late. But friends, we love you all so much and we didn't want to not do the episode because

0:56.8

who knows when we found the time to record again. So we'll synopsize a few things. First of all,

1:03.1

we had a long frivolous discussion about the Mets to lead things off. We're a little unhappy about

1:08.4

what, Steve, I think you were happy that Lindor had his, had

1:12.6

what, first hit in a while.

1:15.1

He had a hit.

1:15.9

Good.

1:16.7

We also noted that I had already showed up very, very late for tonight's recording.

1:22.5

My bad.

1:23.6

We observed that my timeliness habits are perhaps not quite as sharp as Steve's.

1:29.6

And then we got into it because we wanted to talk with y'all about the DC circuits Alhila

1:34.4

on Bonk review that's pending in what this pretends for the possibility of A, deciding that the due

1:43.0

process clause of the fifth amendment does indeed apply

1:45.5

guantanamo to the detainees and b if so so what um and then we'll talk or we were talking

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