Episode 20: Bad Blood

Cousins By Blood

Matt Duff

True Crime

4.7 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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This episode, the origin of the 34x32 Arizona brand jeans is explored and we hear from a close friend of James and Amy Kitchen.

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0:00.0	Yeah, all I know is the bad blood that was between them whenever Chris left.
0:06.5	I mean, I do know there was bad blood from that between Chris, James, and Ivan.
0:12.4	So I know there was some type of bad blood, but I don't know the extent of it.
0:22.8	When this thing goes according to trial, I have one shot more opportunity to be not guilty.
0:27.9	Or I go to prison in death row.
0:29.5	Mm-hmm.
0:30.4	I have such a reality, Evan.
0:33.2	We have busted alibis, we have caught people in line.
0:38.3	This is just insane because everybody's pointing the finger at somebody else.
0:43.2	You just don't hear every day walking in somebody's house,
0:45.8	they're going to take the plastic out and pop somebody.
0:49.0	So he could get the execution date pretty much any day?
0:52.3	Yeah, there's no impediment.
0:55.7	Yeah, this is Cousins by Blood.
1:01.1	Episode 20, Bad Blood.
1:10.6	The size 34-32 Arizona brand jeans that were found in Ivan and Amy's apartment kitchen trash can
1:18.2	is one of the most intriguing elements of this case.
1:21.3	The size doesn't make sense.
1:27.3	The fact that there was little to no DNA on the sample taken from the waistband doesn't make sense.
1:35.1	The placement of the jeans on top of the trash without a lid doesn't make sense.
1:42.4	The fact that Sylvia and Nychenberg didn't see the jeans in the trash can during the wellness check
1:47.9	doesn't make sense.
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