Episode 2: The Jitters
Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order
MS NOW
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 1 December 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | First of all, where was your ship at the time of the attack? |
| 0:04.3 | About 20 miles off Santa Cruz. |
| 0:06.8 | And what time of day was it? |
| 0:08.2 | 2.15 Saturday afternoon. |
| 0:10.5 | What sort of weather were you having? |
| 0:11.8 | Oh, it was fine weather, nice and clear, and the sun was shining. |
| 0:15.3 | And how about the sea? |
| 0:16.4 | The sea was a little rough maybe for submarines and some wind. |
| 0:21.8 | The sea was a little rough maybe for submarines, is what he said there. |
| 0:27.3 | Captain, where were you personally when you first discovered the submarine? |
| 0:30.6 | I was in my bathroom and I happened to look through the portal and I saw a black strip on the surface. |
| 0:39.4 | And I ran on the bridge and recognized a submarine. Would you make an estimate as how big the sub was? About 300 feet long. |
| 0:44.9 | Well, it wasn't one of those tiny subs. No, sir. Tell me, what nationality was it? Well, to my estimation, |
| 0:52.2 | there's only one kind of nation could do that and that that's Japanese, the same as I did Pearl Harbor. |
| 0:57.5 | This was December 21st, 1941. |
| 1:01.3 | The United States was just attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbor two weeks ago. |
| 1:07.0 | About 50 planes participated in the attack on the Hawaiian Islands. |
| 1:11.3 | Many, according to a bulletin that has just come in, were shot down. |
| 1:15.9 | More than 2,000 Americans were killed. |
| 1:19.3 | The whole country, of course, is now at war with Germany and Italy and Japan. |
| 1:24.2 | But in the Western United States specifically, |
| 1:27.0 | there's acute awareness that our Pacific coast is |
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