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Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order

Episode 1: Safecracker

Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order

MS NOW

News, Ms Now, Rachel Maddow, History, Government, Msnbc

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The bombshell discovery of a report that U.S. government officials had ordered burned has the potential to expose the truth about one of the most radical policy decisions in all of American history. A policy that one young Naval intelligence officer desperately tried to warn his superiors was unwarranted and unnecessary.

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0:00.0

The summer of 1982.

0:10.1

Good morning.

0:11.5

This is today.

0:12.2

It's Tuesday, August 17th.

0:13.6

I'm Bryant Gumbull.

0:15.1

Year two of the presidency of Ronald Reagan.

0:18.3

That was President Reagan in a nationally televised speech last night from the White House,

0:22.3

making a sober plea to Americans to support.

0:24.8

The number one song in the country is Eye of the Tiger.

0:28.8

The summer's smash hit movie is E.T.

0:31.6

E.T. Phone home.

0:34.6

And in Washington, Democrats and Republicans are at each other's throats over a big, controversial

0:41.0

bill to raise taxes.

0:43.4

What we need now is an end of the bickering.

0:46.6

In that summer of 1982, there's a researcher posted up inside the National Archives,

0:52.3

which is just a few blocks from the White House.

0:55.2

This researcher has been coming to the archives for years,

0:58.5

it's basically her second home.

1:00.5

On a typical day, she's at the archives right up until closing time.

1:04.7

She's maybe five feet tall, she's got big glasses,

1:08.5

she's usually got a brown bag lunch with her, and also her own

1:13.1

personal copy machine that she lugs to and from the archives every day. But she's not a professor

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