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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 191: The Biggest Fiasco of Them All

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

We're back with further discussion of the insurrection: Is it constitutional for the Senate to carry on with trial of an Article of Impeachment if the impeached official is no longer in office? Yes, yes it is. Disqualification from future office is a separate and independent purpose of the trial phase, independent of removal from office; where it otherwise, any half-wit could avoid such punishment simply by resigning once it became clear they were likely to lose in the Senate. We review the strong statement of FBI and DOJ engagement in pursuing the ringleaders and others culpable for the January 6th attack. What really happened to the Would-Be-Acting-Twice-Nominated DHS Secretary Chad Wolf? It's a tale of statutory inevitability.  At any rate, welcome to the front office Pete Gaynor! Does the disqualification-from-office provision of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment apply to Trump's outrageous conduct?  Well, that 6:01pm tweet of his wants to make a case for providing aid-and-comfort to armed enemies of the Constitution and government of the United States... Mike Pompeo announces an Iran-al Qaeda team-up...what legal implications? Nightmare scenarios for the endgame period: watch out for domestic terrorism at iconic government-related locations away from the Inauguration. How great is it that the Mets picked up Francisco Lindor?

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin. Welcome to episode 191 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:14.0

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas. It's Tuesday night, January 12th, 2020. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Lodick. It is only

0:24.1

Tuesday. It feels like a year of Mondays, actually. It's been a few days since our last

0:31.4

emergency pod, Steve. We did episode 190 on the night of the Day of the Living Infamy, the insurrection that

0:40.1

flooded across and rampage through the Capitol. And tonight we're back really to talk about

0:46.2

the same thing and some further developments, perhaps, but nothing too different from what we

0:50.8

already talked about. We're not going to address, I don't think,

0:54.3

really anything else, are we? I mean, maybe we'll spare a quick word for swaggering Mikey P,

1:01.3

the Secretary of State, who decided to pick today to declare that Iran was partly responsible

1:06.4

for the 9-11 attacks, which I thought was, you know, a nice, a nice outgoing pardon gift from the soon-to-be

1:12.4

former Secretary of State. So I was not aware of that. You're going to have to fill me in, but that

1:16.6

sounds like something we definitely should talk about. I'd like to know more about what he said.

1:20.2

That's basically what he said. Well, my meteor action is that there's, well, let's save that until we get to it.

1:27.9

But I think we should talk about that because I think that has some implications about sort of what we should spend some time doing, which is anticipating some sort of worst case scenarios over things going south in the next few days or the next eight days to be more specific.

1:42.4

Not even.

1:43.9

Seven days.

1:43.9

As we're sitting here, seven days,

1:47.2

14 hours and 23 minutes.

1:51.1

Many a slip between cup and lip.

1:54.1

And that's a long time between now and then.

1:57.9

One would think we ought not to have Trump in charge for those remaining seven days,

2:01.7

14 hours and change.

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