Episode 190: Day of Infamy

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Today was a national tragedy of the first order. Tonight we discuss: the many crimes that definitely were committed, and certain other crimes -- particularly seditious conspiracy -- that may have been committed (and how that relates to the First Amendment Brandenburg test) the bizarre and indefensible lack of a strong police presence and a proper National Guard response (including an unpacking of the legal authorities governing control over DC's guard) some familiar -- and some not-so-familiar -- interpretive questions associated with the 25th Amendment (including not just the role of "Acting" secretaries, but also the question of what happens if the president's "rebuttal" letter is followed instantly by the firing of all the secretaries who signed the original letter) impeachment issue, including the prospect of proceedings lasting beyond January 20th...and the possibility of an outcome permanently barring Donald J. Trump from office

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0:00.0	Hello from Austin. Welcome to episode 190 of the National Security Law podcast.
0:06.6	We're brought to you by the Strauss Center, the University of Texas. It's Wednesday night. It's January 6th, 2021.
0:14.3	To borrow a phrase, it is a day that will live in infamy. I'm Bobby Chesney.
0:18.9	I'm Steve Vladik, and to help us get through all this, I actually
0:21.7	brought what I hope is an uplifting special guest. Say hi, special guest. Hey, guys. It's Karen Vlodick.
0:28.4	Yay. No, no, did you know about nerd and Steve Drager, Karen, has decided to take a break from
0:36.4	dragging me on Twitter to come drag me on a podcast
0:39.4	that isn't actually our podcast.
0:41.6	I will hang out until the first statute is stated.
0:46.1	Oh, that's going to be pretty early.
0:49.0	Section 2384 is going to come into this conversation pretty quickly.
0:52.3	We can do 2383 first, but I'll set off of 2384.
0:56.0	It's an in loco parentis national security law.
1:00.7	It's always kind of a crossover, I guess, now.
1:03.2	But it's a full-fledged crossover.
1:05.5	It's like Laverne and Shirley and Happy Days, all members, not just one of them.
1:10.8	I should also warn people. I mean, we are recording this at 9.15 central time on Wednesday, 9. and Happy Days, all members, not just one of them.
1:11.8	I should also warn people.
1:15.1	I mean, we are recording this at 9.15 central time on Wednesday night.
1:17.8	This is not going to be a G-rated episode.
1:22.0	And just to kick the ball off, that is because Bobby, shit is fucked up.
1:24.0	Well, let me ask you this.
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