Well, welcome. This is your anxiety toolkit. Today I have a special guest, my very dear friend Zoe Gillis, to talk about the importance of bringing nature into our lives and how we can go about doing that and the importance of it. So welcome Zoe. Thank you so much for having me Kimberly. I love this podcast.

I think you do an amazing job of making anxiety and depression and ways to deal with it really accessible.

And I'm really glad to be here.

Thank you.

No, I feel the same way about you.

So let me tell you guys a little bit about Zoe. Zoe is a

license and marriage family therapist similar to me. We actually went and did our master's degree

together and you have a practice in Eagle Rock. Yeah. Silver Lake. Excuse me. And But Zoe also has an additional treasure or passion, which is her Z-Adventures, which

do you want to tell us a little bit about your practice and Z-adventures?

Sure.

Well, I actually just came from a hike to meditate event today, which is why I'm wearing a baseball cap and dress pretty casual for those of you that are listening.

So Z Adventures, I started my path of bringing mindfulness into the outdoors because, so John Cabot-Zinn

defines mindfulness as paying attention in the moment, on purpose, with a non-judgmental

perspective. And what I love about the wilderness is that

it puts you in this state of not judging.

So you're not outside looking at the ocean or the trees

and going, if it was just a little bit taller,

then it would be better. And so I think that

it has this ability to bring us into the moment and connect us to our senses that I really love.

And so I think it complements mindfulness and healing and personal growth in that way really well.

I love that.

And I love the way that you're really bringing it all together, that you are literally

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