And the Hello and welcome to another edition of the soda jaker on songwriting podcast we hope you're all

keep them well this is Brian flanked in the virtual sense at least by my co-host

Simon and this episode shines the spotlight on an English indie folk trio made up

of siblings Jessica Camilla and Emily Stavely Taylor.

As we record this they very recently released their triumphant fourth studio album Good Woman,

produced with John Congleton and recorded following a period of considerable personal turmoil.

Two-thirds of the band joined us over Zoom a few weeks back for a most enjoyable Nata about his creation and much more.

We're very happy to welcome Jessica and Camilla of the Staves to the show.

The Staves hail from Watford, Hertfordshire in the southeast of England, just outside London.

They sang a lot around the house as kids and their parents were not only musical themselves

but also boasted a pretty solid record collection consisting of the likes of Simon and Garfunkel,

James Taylor, Crosby Stills and Nash, Buffalo Springfield and of course the Beatles.

The dad, who hails from the whirl or over the water, as we call it on our side of the Mersey,

taught them the guitar, while their mom was from Wales and grew up in a community of male voice choirs and instilled in their

daughters the power of communal singing. The sisters took their first tentative

performing steps at the regular open mic night at their local pub the horns

initially going under the name The Stavely

Taylors before it was abbreviated to the altogether Snappier, The Staves.

As they gained in confidence they began gigging locally, then around London

and gradually began gigging

to see music as a possible career.

In the late naughties, Jessica relocated to Liverpool to study at our old stomping

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