Episode 187: Stay the Course

Osterholm Update

CIDRAP

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4.8 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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In "Stay the Course," Dr. Osterholm and Chris Dall review the outcomes of the June ACIP meeting and shares updates on the Vaccine Integrity Project. Dr. Osterholm also covers the latest trends in COVID-19, H5N1, and measles, and answers an ID query about RSV vaccines. <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/measles/us-measles-cases-top-1200-uk-loses-measles-free-status">US measles cases top 1,200 as UK loses 'measles free' status</a> (CIDRAP News) <a href="https://www.statnews.com/2025/07/03/vaccine-integrity-project-michael-osterholm-cidrap-rsv-flu-covid/">The U.S. government is failing on vaccine policy. The Vaccine Integrity Project is here to help</a> (STAT, paywall) <a href="https://www.statnews.com/2025/06/24/too-many-too-soon-vaccine-schedule-children-antigens-immune-system-aluminum/">‘Too many, too soon’? Debunking a common fear about kids’ vaccines</a> (STAT, paywall)   Resources for vaccine and public health advocacy: <a href="https://www.voicesforvaccines.org/get-involved/">Voices for Vaccines</a> <a href="https://familiesfightingflu.org/take-action/">Families Fighting Flu</a> <a href="https://vaccinateyourfamily.org/get-involved/">Vaccinate Your Family</a> <a href="https://shotatlife.org/take-action/">Shot@Life</a> <a href="https://aspr.hhs.gov/MRC/Pages/index.aspx">Medical Reserve Corps</a> Learn more about the <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/vaccine-integrity-project">Vaccine Integrity Project</a> <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/osterholm-update-covid-19">MORE EPISODES</a>       <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/support-cidrap">SUPPORT THIS PODCAST</a>

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Osterholm Update, a podcast on COVID-19 and other infectious diseases with Dr. Michael Osterholm.
0:15.4	Dr. Ostrome is an internationally recognized medical detective and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, or CIDRAP, at the University of Minnesota. In this podcast, Dr. O. Strom
0:26.9	draws on nearly 50 years of experience investigating infectious disease outbreaks to provide
0:31.8	straight talk on the latest infectious disease and public health threats. I'm Chris Dahl,
0:37.2	reporter for CidWap News, and I'm Chris Dahl, reporter for Sidrap News,
0:38.5	and I'm your host for these conversations. Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of the
0:46.7	Ostrom Update podcast. The first six months of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s tenure as Secretary
0:52.3	of the Department of Health and Human Services has been a time of shock, anger, and sorrow for many public health and infectious disease experts.
1:00.7	As Kennedy and his colleagues have plowed ahead with efforts to reduce the HHS workforce,
1:05.8	cut programs that monitor and respond to infectious disease threats, and remake U.S. vaccine policy to align with
1:12.4	his personal views. Perhaps the worst part has been the sense that these efforts can't be stopped.
1:18.4	But pushback is emerging. Earlier this week, a coalition of six medical groups sued Kennedy and
1:23.6	HHS over his recent changes to COVID vaccine policy, calling those changes arbitrary and capricious.
1:30.0	He's doing everything he possibly can to undermine vaccine confidence. Dr. George Benjamin,
1:35.1	executive director of the American Public Health Association, one of the organizations joining
1:39.3	the lawsuit, told NBC News, quite frankly, we've had enough. The lawsuit is the latest in a series of
1:46.2	efforts, including Sid Rapp's Vaccine Integrity Project, to defend U.S. vaccine policy and
1:51.5	counter inaccurate health information. On this July 11th episode of the podcast, we're going
1:57.0	to discuss these efforts and how scientific and medical organizations are, quote,
2:00.8	stepping up to help safeguard the systems they helped build over decades, as Dr. Oostrom wrote in a recent op-ed for stat.
2:08.0	We'll also recap the recent meeting of the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee,
2:12.2	discuss the lawsuit against Secretary Kennedy and HHS,
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