The Partially Examined Life relies on your support.

To find out how to help in ways that are cheap or even free,

please visit partiallyexaminedlife.com slash support.

You're listening to the Partially Examined Life episode 185,

part two on Homer's Odyssey with guest Emily Wilson,

who did the new and awesome translation.

So we just talked about basically his ethic of glory,

so Emily, you had connected this ethic of glory that he has

to having an intact home in a state,

supporters, property, cattle, things like that,

that there's something, it's not just having great deeds

or that there's some connection between being renowned

for great deeds and having this material symbol of that,

the estate, and so that it's very important for him.

It's tragic.

Everybody recognizes it as tragic,

that his whole estate is being eaten up

while he's gone, that even though he's described

having a ridiculous number of pigs and cattle and things,

but everybody recognizes that this is a crime,

that this is, am I right, that this is kind of tantamount

to tarnishing his reputation, that the material and the...

...