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Our Fake History

Episode #180- Columbus? (Part III)

Our Fake History

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History, Education, Society & Culture

4.73.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2023

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

There is a long tradition of writers comparing Christopher Columbus to mythical figures. 16th century historian Peter Martyr believed Columbus was like a later-day Aeneas, the Trojan hero who travelled west to found a society in Italy that would one day become Rome. Over the centuries many Americans gravitated to the idea of Columbus as Aeneas--- a man who brought civilization west and gave it a new headquarters in America. However, more recently one historian has argued that Columbus is more like the tragic Greek hero Oedipus. In his estimation Columbus, like Oedipus, was a hero who brought about a tragedy unwittingly. Is this a fair analogy? While acting as the Viceroy of Indies and the Governor of Hispaniola, Columbus would personally oversee the enslavement of thousands of people and the institution of a tribute system so exploitative that it lead to one of history's more shocking humanitarian disasters. How "unwitting" can all of this really be said to be? Tune-in and find out how pear shaped globes, Columbus' chains, and America's worst statues all play a role in the story. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone, Sebastian here.

0:02.4

Before we get started today, I wanted everyone listening to know that today's episode is

0:06.7

going to be dealing with a number of very difficult topics.

0:10.9

We're going to be discussing sexual assault, suicide, and violence of all sorts.

0:18.7

Please use your discretion when it comes to how and when you listen to this show.

0:24.8

If you're listening with younger people, just be advised that there are some tough moments.

0:29.6

Alright, for everybody else, I hope you enjoy the show.

0:40.5

It always seemed strange to me that Christopher Columbus became so deeply wrapped up in the

0:46.1

national mythology of the United States of America.

0:50.4

It doesn't necessarily seem intuitive that a country whose identity is so deeply linked

0:56.7

to violently breaking away from its European colonial masters and rejecting monarchy would

1:03.3

gravitate towards a figure like Columbus.

1:07.1

After all, Christopher Columbus was a representative of the Spanish crown.

1:13.5

The man was nothing if not a devoted monarchist.

1:17.9

His exploits in the Caribbean were all about expanding a European empire and enriching

1:24.6

his royal patrons.

1:27.2

With the notable exception of the island of Puerto Rico, Columbus never set foot on any

1:33.8

piece of land that would become part of the United States.

1:38.6

Also consider how in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, American rhetoric was so deeply

1:45.8

anti-Spanish.

1:48.0

Barely a decade after drafting the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson suggested

1:53.7

that the United States might want to gobble up Latin America, quote, piece by piece,

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