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JFK The Enduring Secret

Episode 178 Charles I. Spiesel The Zany Accountant Part 1

JFK The Enduring Secret

Jeff Crudele

Coup D'etat, Documentary, Government, Ruby, History, Jfk, Murder, Kennedy, Mafia, President, Oswald, Dallas, Fbi, Society & Culture, Assassination, Cia, Johnson

4.6602 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Episode 178 is the first in a two part series covering Charles I. Spiesel, the zany accountant from New York who testified at the Clay Shaw Trial. This is a classic story of a witness that began with all the potential to sink Clay Shaw. Professional and articulate on the stand, his testimony for the prosecution was clear and convincing. But it only lasted for a few minutes, as he was destroyed upon cross examination by Irvin Dymond the defense attorney for Clay Shaw. This story is...

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0:00.0

Welcome to JFK in The Enduring Secret.

0:06.4

I'm your host, Jeff Crudell.

0:30.8

Hello everyone and welcome back to the podcast. Today's episode is episode 178. As I've been hinting at,

0:36.2

we're getting close to the end of the Clayshaw trial in the Garrison series. There's only a handful of episodes that I want to do to complete

0:39.3

this series. I want to get on to more exciting things. In fact, a lot of the controversy that's

0:45.3

come up lately, especially with the JFK Records Act, has reignited my interest in delving right

0:52.2

in to the issues of CIA involvement in the assassination,

0:56.9

or at least potential CIA involvement in the assassination.

1:02.2

Oh, I know. It's really not that simple. It's not like the whole agency was involved, right?

1:08.6

But there is ample evidence that things were covered up. And I think what we want to know

1:14.6

is just exactly what was their involvement. Who? Was it a subset? Did it go all the way to the top?

1:23.3

Was Richard Helms involved? There are even books today that would point the finger at Alan Dulles.

1:30.7

Proposterous?

1:31.9

I don't know if it's preposterous, but like everything we do on this show, we have to analyze the evidence.

1:40.1

So that's what we're going to do when we get to that part of the podcast. And that's really only a

1:46.6

handful of episodes away. But today, we're going to do one of those things that's still left on

1:53.6

the list. It's a classic. The story today is that of Charles I. Speasel, an accountant who appeared out of nowhere and testified on behalf of the Garrison prosecution team.

2:07.4

He was a bombshell witness that, on the surface, appeared to be highly credible.

2:12.6

And just as fast as the courtroom went silent as he told the story of a party that he attended

2:20.1

with Clay Shaw and David Ferry, a party where it was discussed that the president should

2:26.2

be killed, a party where Clay Shaw himself and David Ferry debated how someone might escape.

2:34.3

Just as all of this brought silence to the courtroom, giggles would soon replace the silence as

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