Episode 177: We Cannot Give Up or Give In

Osterholm Update

CIDRAP

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4.8 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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In "We Cannot Give Up or Give In" Dr. Osterholm and Chris Dall discuss the confirmation of RFK Jr. as HHS Secretary, recent layoffs at the CDC and NIH, and a new vaccine policy being adopted in Louisiana. They also discuss seasonal and H5N1 influenza activity and a measles outbreak in Texas. Follow us on <a href="https://bsky.app/">Bluesky</a>: Dr. Michael Osterholm (<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/mtosterholm.bsky.social">@mtosterholm.bsky.social</a>) and CIDRAP (<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/cidrap.bsky.social">cidrap.bsky.social</a>) <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/newsletter">Sign up for CIDRAP's daily newsletter</a> <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/osterholm-update-covid-19">MORE EPISODES</a>       <a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/support-cidrap">SUPPORT THIS PODCAST</a>

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Osterholm Update, a podcast on COVID-19 and other infectious diseases with Dr. Michael Osterholm.
0:15.4	Dr. Ostrome is an internationally recognized medical detective and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, or CIDRAP, at the University of Minnesota. In this podcast, Dr. O. Strom
0:27.0	draws on nearly 50 years of experience investigating infectious disease outbreaks to provide
0:31.8	straight talk on the latest infectious disease and public health threats. I'm Chris Dahl,
0:37.2	reporter for CidWap News, and I'm Chris Dahl, reporter for Sidrap News,
0:38.5	and I'm your host for these conversations. Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of the
0:46.6	Ostrom Update podcast. If there's a single headline over the past week that most succinctly
0:52.3	sums up how public health officials and infectious
0:54.9	disease experts are feeling about the confirmation of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as the secretary
0:59.7	of the Department of Health and Human Services, it can be found in the Atlantic magazine.
1:04.7	The title of the article written by Atlantic staff writer Nicholas Florco on February 13th says,
1:09.5	simply, RFK Jr. 1. Now what? Despite all the warnings
1:14.3	about Kennedy's long history of spreading misinformation about vaccines and some of the very
1:18.9	agencies he's now charged with overseeing, and the concerns about how he could undermine U.S. vaccine
1:24.2	policy, Kennedy was confirmed by the U.S. Senate in a 52-48 vote.
1:29.8	The question now for those who remain deeply concerned is, what comes next?
1:33.9	That's where we're going to start on this February 20th episode of the podcast, as we
1:38.1	evaluate the changing public health landscape in Washington. We'll also discuss the layoffs
1:42.9	at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
1:45.2	national institutes of health, and the Food and Drug Administration, and explain how the proposed
1:49.6	cuts in indirect costs paid by NIH on research grants could affect medical research. We'll then
1:56.4	turn to our regular updates on COVID, flu, and RSV, answer an ID query on the calling of chickens
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