Let's just be clear about one thing. First of all, is that there's a lot of billionaire funding

and not just liberal, but left wing spaces as well. Some of your favorite left wing NGOs

are fueled by money from George Soros, Pierre at Midiar, other kinds of left-leaning billionaires.

There's a lot of campaigns, political campaigns, not just politicians, but referenda and the like

criminal justice reform, legalizing marijuana, equality for LGBTs that are also heavily financed

with billionaire funding. Michael Bloomberg gives enormous sums of money to gun control and

gun reform groups. So there's a huge amount of billionaire funding coming into not just liberal

but left wing spaces on the grounds that, well, look, we wish we lived in a world with

reading after rely on billionaire funding, but that's not the world in which we actually live.

The other issue I would say is you're right that there was excitement about the prospect

that Elon Musk might take over Twitter under the banner of free speech. There was also a huge

amount of panic and anger and indignation that mostly came from the corporate press that relies

upon this censorship regime in all sorts of ways. And I think when you look at how much anger

emanated from places like the Washington Post and the New York Times and CNN and NBC news and

all other kinds of power centers, including the US security state over the prospect that Elon Musk

might come in and take out of their hands are really important weapon, which is the weapon to

silence dissent, not just dissent on the right, but also as you said, people on the left are

constantly getting harassed and silenced and demonetized and even banned on YouTube, which is why

when I went to rumble, one of the first people eager to come with me and who actually went was

Matt Orfella, who became known as a videographer for the Sanders campaign in 2016. There's a lot of

this dissent that's growing rapidly. And so nobody's under an illusion about who Elon Musk is.

I think the idea is that right now there's such hegemonic control over big tech social media platforms

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