Hey guys, we're at Power and Love up here in Michigan.

So the voices that you hear out there are people like getting ready to go on outreach.

So it's been amazing.

We've had such a great day today this morning just talking about the reality of the blood of Jesus. And, man, I got to come up after Jake is leading worship. I came in this morning, and, like, it happens pretty much every time. I'm like, I just come in. I'm like, okay, Lord, like, I just love you so much. And I just hear the lyrics that are coming. And you, like, you like go for it, like in between.

And it's always like, cut the heart, man.

And so my heart is to cut the heart constantly.

And so your music is cutting the heart, man.

So, like, I guess because these are really free, we just kind of talk about, like, whatever God's

bring in.

So what, what do you feel when you get up there, man?

When you're getting ready to let it rip, no matter what environment you're at, how do

you engage?

Where's your heart at?

How do you get your heart engaged in the beginning?

You know, before, then when you're up there,

where are you at, man? Yeah, I mean, I think, so the way that I do it just now, I've been doing this for like 20-some years. And what I realized, like, even back when I was at Baptist church, like, right? So this is where I started leading worship as a Baptist church, emergent church. Jake, there would always be these moments,

because I didn't know Holy Spirit, I didn't know any of this stuff, where they would call it two things. They'd be like, well, Jake goes off script, which means there's no powerpoint for whatever Jake's going to sing. I didn't know it was prophetic. Nobody had that language around me. I would just start singing whatever. There'd be moments. I would take it as far as,

okay, we're going to play these chords and I'm just going to sing something. But I had no language

for what it was. I've just been doing that for 20 years. And then I would do what they would be like

call like a second sermon, which is basically me leading worship. There was no ministry time because

a Baptist church. So we'd get up to do like the closing song. And I would just sing about what we just, what the

preacher just preached, you know? And then that kind of followed me all the way to like, I started

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