Greetings dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg of the Remnant Podcast which is brought

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DoorDash more about then later. So we're recording this episode on Thursday of what humans of the

future will call last week and we just had the constitutional experts testify about impeachment stuff

and we wanted to get one of the... I call them for years of Vulcan because it's not entirely clear to

me that he's a human being because he's so smart. And one of my oldest friends in Washington,

Ramesh Panuru, former colleague at National Review, still a colleague at the American Enterprise

Institute Bloomberg columnist, senior editor, national review and who married up to

April Panuru who we all love. Ramesh, thanks for coming on. Glad to be here. So I wanted to get that

out there that we're... we could be a little dated because over the weekend on the Sunday shows,

Mick Mulvaney or Rudy Giuliani could sort of flip and spill the beans or whatever but

my sense is... Or spill the beans without even intending to. That's right. Or sometimes,

you know, refuse to spill the beans at the beginning of a sentence and then spill them at the end of

the sentence. But I want to just sort of get yours... But since for the most part nothing ever changes,

polling never changes, people were all locked in, attitudes on impeachment, except for a few

independents who've slid back against it haven't changed. Want to get you sort of your first

your sort of the rank punditry take on where you think the impeachment stuff is, where do you think

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