I'm Matthew and I'm Molly and this is spilled milk the show where we cook something

delicious eat it all and you can't have any. Today we are talking vanilla ice

cream with a special guest.

Yes, so it's been a while since we've had a guest in the studio

and we're very excited to have Dan Pashman,

author of the new book Eat More Better,

host of the Sporkful, and...

And competition.

That's right.

Yes, so Dan, welcome to the show.

Thank you.

Thanks for having me. And yeah, we can now reveal that like we have essentially thought of the Sporkful as our nemesis for as long as spelled milk has been around so the

sporkful is it is a terrific weekly is it it's biweekly right it's biweekly

though we're moving to weekly okay it's a it's a terrific podcast about how to how to

approach the world of food and particularly like everyday food in a more

intelligent clever creative way. Well, thank you.

It's excited for me to be here.

It's definitely weird to see the voices coming out of your faces.

Like I'm right here, like this is where it happens.

It's so exciting.

But I can also reveal that when this

work full because our podcast launched at almost the same time and I had

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