Hello and welcome to the Renaissance English History podcast.

I'm your host Heather Tesco, and I'm a storyteller who makes history accessible

because I believe it's a pathway to understanding who we are,

our place in the universe, and being more deeply in touch with our own humanity.

This is episode 153, I believe, and it's the post-tutor con. I haven't written an episode interview episode.

And I want to tell you who it is and why I wanted to interview him.

So this is Tim Darcy Ellis and he wrote a book called The Secret Diary of Juan Luis Vives.

And I saw it and I thought, I have to read this book because, you know, anything that starts

with Secret Diary sounds fun. And Juan Luis Vives, he pops up from time to time, talking specifically

about the education of Mary Tudor because he was her tutor. But beyond that, very little is known

about him.

And so I was like, what is this?

And it's historical fiction, so it's not 100% completely true.

But I started reading it and it was a really good book.

And so I wanted to interview the author and he was kind enough to do a little Zoom chat

with me in my group

in the Tudor Learning Circle group, which you can find out more about live chats at Tudor

learning circle.com. So anyway, I want to post that interview now and we start off with me asking him

why he chose Juan Luis Vives to write about. I hope you

enjoy the interview as much as I enjoyed reading his book and you should totally check out

his book. It's really, really good. All right, here we go. He's just really like a side note.

You know, he's a bystand.

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