Episode 153 - (ETHICS) The "Debatable" Ethics Code w/ Dr. Allen Karsina

ABA Inside Track

Robert Parry-Cruwys

Behavioralscience, Education, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Social Sciences, Aba, Science, Specialeducation

4.6 • 623 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2021

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Step right up! Step right up! It’s time for the great ethics debate! In this corner, Jackie and Diana, the dynamic duo, ready to convince the listeners that the BACB ethics code fails to do enough to support meaningful ethical problem solving in the repertoire of behavior analysts. And, coming all the way from the other side of the podcast-o-sphere, it’s Rob with special guest (i.e., ringer) Dr. Allen Karsina, ready to tangle in support of the current code because rules are the scaffolding that holds our moral wills and skills to be ethical together. It’s no-holds barred on this week’s episode. Four BCBAs enter…only two will leave!

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NOTE: This episode was recorded prior to the release of the updated BACB ethics guidelines

Articles discussed this episode:

Rosenberg, N.E., & Schwartz, I.S. (2019). Guidance or compliance: What makes an ethical behavior analyst? Behavior Analysis in Practice, 12, 473-482. doi: 10.1007/s40617-018-00287-5

Sellers, T.P., Carr, J.E., Nosik, M.R. (2020). On the BACB’s ethics requirements: A response to Rosenberg and Schwartz (2019). Behavior Analysis in Practice, 13, 714-717. doi: 10.1007/s40617-020-00463-6

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, before we start the episode, just a quick note. We recorded this episode with Dr.
0:04.6	Karsina before the release of the updated ethics code from the BACB. That came out at about the end
0:10.6	of December, and we recorded this a little bit before the sort of end December break. So while I think
0:16.8	the episode still covers a lot of important topics related to what should an ethics code
0:21.2	be, what should be in an ethics code. It does make reference to the current and soon to be
0:26.7	old compliance code. So when you hear us refer to code numbers and values, we're looking at the
0:33.0	old code, not the one that was just released to be in place as of next January. So with that out of the
0:39.6	way, we hope you enjoy our great debate. Hey everybody. welcome to ABA Inside Track, the podcast that's like reading in your car, but safer.
1:03.2	I'm your host, Robert Perry Cruz, and with me as always are my fabulous co-hosts.
1:07.7	Hey, Rob, it's Diana.
1:09.1	And it's me, Jackie.
1:13.3	And every week on this show,
1:19.1	we discuss an important topic in the annals of behavior analysis and behavior analytic research.
1:24.0	And this week is a very important topic. We are talking all about ethics. And we're not just talking about any old ethics, we're going to have a great debate.
1:33.7	We're going to have a team versus team debate on a topic related to the BACB ethics code.
1:36.5	But we can't do that with only three of us because that would be unfair team.
1:38.3	So I brought in a ringer.
1:41.8	I brought in, I have special guest.
1:42.3	Oh, no. Joining us again, Dr. Alan Carcina.
1:45.1	Alan, thank you so much for joining my team to help me win this debate.
1:49.2	Hi, everybody. Great to see you again.
1:51.4	So, Alan, you joined us way back when and you talked with us all about choice.
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