Episode 148 | Trump & DOJ FALL APART in COURT as Judges CLOSE IN

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.8 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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An Illinois federal judge says immigration agents’ use of force during Chicago protests “shocks the conscience” and has moved to rein them in, issuing a preliminary injunction that limits their use of tear gas and pepper balls. But the Trump administration is appealing, accusing the judge of overreach. Asha and Renato unpack the “separation of powers” principle and discuss the limits on judges’ ability to make the executive branch comply with court orders. Plus, they break down the legal wrangling over the White House’s refusal to fund SNAP during the shutdown. Listen up! Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.socialFollow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.socialFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	So, Asha, can judges force the Trump administration to comply with their orders?
0:06.1	Eh, it's complicated.
0:11.6	I'm Asha Rangappa. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent,
0:18.6	and I'm the author of The Freedom Academy Substack. And I'm
0:22.0	Renata Marietti. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.
0:27.8	And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a soundbite or a ski.
0:37.3	Wow. Well, for our first topic, Asha, I think we've got something that I personally have been watching unfold on the ground here in Chicago.
0:48.3	Yeah, this is not in my backyard that's happening in your backyard, basically.
0:54.1	Yeah, and I will just say kind of before
0:56.9	we get into the meat of what we're going to discuss here that it really has had a pretty substantial
1:02.0	impact on our community um i know people who have been indicted uh i have been approached by people
1:10.0	who have been indicted to represent them. And I'm not
1:11.8	talking about like, you know, vagrants or something. I'm talking about people who own businesses,
1:18.1	people who are important members of the community because they were exercising their First
1:23.3	Amendment rights. You know, they got caught up in, you know, in now with federal criminal
1:32.9	actions taken against them. But I think it's fair to say also, Asha, there's been sort of a bipartisan
1:38.3	reaction here to some of the very aggressive tactics that have been used and I think unlawful,
1:48.3	it's unconstitutional at times tactics taken by the Trump administration in their, you know,
1:55.1	ICE in CHP, CBP operation here in Chicago.
1:59.0	Yeah, so we've been seeing a lot of these images on the news of things like tear gas being
2:05.0	deployed.
2:05.6	I think there was the one video of the priest that got hit with some rubber bullets or something
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