I'm Matthew and I'm Molly and this is spilled milk the show where we cook something

delicious eat it all and you can't have any. Today we are talking about the thing that is on everyone's mind

apparently at this time of year and that is pumpkin spice everything.

Yeah I think this is this is our pumpkin

bullshit episode. Yeah what is okay can we just get right down to it what is

pumpkin like pumpkin. Pumpkin spice most of the time it contains no pumpkin.

Yeah, so I, when I was shopping for this episode,

I wondered whether we should try and draw a distinction

between pumpkin and pumpkin spice,

but it's impossible.

I mean, some of these things have pumpkin in them, some of them just have

the spices you would put in pumpkin pie. I just find this a weird concept.

Ginger, cinnamon, allspice, nutmeg, clothes. And what's interesting to me is that this has become such a tremendous phenomenon when at least in my world

pumpkin pie is kind of like a controversial item.

I think either you love warm spices or you hate them.

Did you just say worm spices?

I really think you said warm.

W. A.

We might have to go to the tape on that one.

R. If you love worm spices right in.

If you love worms. If you're the early bird. So I went to Trader Joe's to get stuff for this episode.

I got most of the stuff there.

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