You're listening to the Apple Insider Podcast.

Welcome to a very special episode of Apple Insider Podcast 139.

I'm your host Victor Marks and joining me is Daniel Errin Deltcher.

Hey, how is going? Amazing.

How are you?

Well, I'm having one of those days where everything is just like upside down and backwards and

requires three more things to fix that have dependencies on other processes.

They're also not working that they're conspiring against you are.

Computing and everything else.

Just one of those.

All right.

But so tell me about what you have that no one else has had yet.

Well, we went to the Hands-on area and handled everything, but we're currently working with reviews

for the iPhone 8 and 8 plus and I don't have an

iPhone 10 yet. I was handling one last night. Some friends that have access to things.

So...

Right, so the iPhone 8 and 8 plus.

A lot of people immediately started looking down on that and being sort of condescending staying that it was the fastest they'd ever seen an iPhone go obsolete.

And I'm not sure I agree with that opinion. How do you feel about that?

Well, Apple's doing something, Apple has a cycle of products that have typically, you know, even back in the days of iPods, there was a sort of joke of they've come out with a new thing and now there's something new

live ahead.

Kind of mocked that idea several times of now there's a new iPad or new iPod that you have to buy

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