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Episode 145: "Thou Shalt Utterly Destroy" Understanding the Biblical Hērem in Scripture

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BYU Religious Education

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

What do we make of times in scripture where violence occurs, especially when the destruction comes because of God's commands? In this episode, Professor David M. Calabro discusses his article "'Thou Shalt Utterly Destroy': Understanding the Biblical ērem", which grapples with the troubling and often misunderstood concept of ērem—the ritualized devotion of people, cities, and goods to God that appears in the conquest narratives of Deuteronomy and Joshua.

Calabro explains that while ērem is frequently read today as indiscriminate violence or genocide, its ancient meaning is far more complex. Rooted linguistically in ideas of holiness and consecration, ērem reflects an ancient Near Eastern way of framing warfare in theological, often hyperbolic terms. By placing Israel's scriptures alongside archaeological evidence, inscriptions from neighboring cultures, and restored gospel truths, the episode shows how biblical language of total destruction functioned within a shared cultural hyperbolic idiom, and that ērem is not ultimately about ethnicity or nationality, but about covenant loyalty, repentance, and one's response to God. 

Rather than resolving all moral and theological questions, Calabro's work invites listeners to read these texts with greater historical awareness, humility, and a willingness to work with God to understand His ways.

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0:00.0

Hello, Why Religion friends. John Hilton here.

0:03.0

Have you ever been reading the Old Testament and suddenly hit a verse that made you stop and think,

0:08.0

how do I make sense of that?

0:10.0

I've encountered several passages like that in the Old Testament and a lot of them deal with violence.

0:16.0

What do we make of times in Scripture where violence occurs, especially when the destruction comes because of God's

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commands.

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Ultimately, there comes a point where we don't know everything.

0:28.8

And even as we wrestle with God about these things, there may always be questions that

0:33.5

are hanging there for us.

0:36.0

Having an attitude of trust that the Lord knows what he's doing,

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and being willing to take up these things with him is so crucial. Rather than being quick

0:45.6

to judge, we should study every source that we can, both from within the revelations of God

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and the scholarly sources.

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All of those things are available to us, and we should feel free to study those things.

0:59.2

But to do it with God and make sure that we approach him first of all with our questions,

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first of all and last of all.

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In this episode of Why Religion, we'll tackle one of the hardest topics in the Old Testament

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and explore how a careful reading of the text, as well as insights from the restoration,

1:16.0

can help us better understand it.

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We'll also talk about what to do when we don't have all the answers, and how those

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moments can strengthen our relationship with God.

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I'm your host, Professor John Hilton, and this is Why Religion.

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