Welcome back to No Chill with Gilbert Arenis. We are here for All-Star Weekend at Brew Dog Outpost,

and we got some basketball royalty in the building. I first met this man. I was playing with

the cashless passer. He was on the older squad. We used to really look up to you. We

rear you as just a legend. Four-time All-MBA, finals in VP and a champion. Play for the

Southings unfortunately, but we know where your heart was. We know where your heart was.

We got the truth in the building. Paul Pierce was going on with it.

Before we get to the needy grid and the interview, I have to ask you now that we got you here.

You have one of the flossiest curls in L.A. Hootage.

We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see.

Oh, no. We're proud that we're using it back in those days to get the curl like that.

Hey, look, I ain't got a lot. Once I put the S curl in, I started getting the curls.

Look, Joe to see, remember Joe to see the S-Cross. Let me get mine like that. Fade it up.

Ooh, that changed my life.

So you were inducted into Hall of Fame in 2021, named one of the NBA's 75 greatest players

of all time. When you were younger, did you ever think that your career would end up the way that

it did? Man, you know what? When you're younger, I don't even think you really think about it.

You know what I'm saying? Because it's a process when you're growing as a player. It's like,

all right, I want to get to college. Once you get to the college, you're like, all right,

I want to get to the lead. And I just think you put in the work and you go as hard as you can

and at the end of the day, when it's all over, you see where you fall. And that's really what it is.

You make your little short-term goals. Like I said, all right, I want to be, for me,

being in the hood, you're like, all right, I want to go D1. Vision 1. Nobody was going to Vision 1.

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