Hey everybody and welcome back to another Pink Bike podcast. I'm Mike Levy, and today there's only one other person with me, and it's Poles founder, Leo Coconin. Now, Paul is a finished brand who

manufactures some pretty wild looking bikes by machining the entire frame out of billet aluminum.

I think some of you guys remember the stamina. More recently, you might have seen their

equally crazy looking Voima e-bike, or you might know Paul from many

years earlier when their EvoLink was one of the earliest bikes to support much longer and slacker

geometry. Now we're going to talk about all of that today as well as a whole bunch more and who

knows what else. But first, Leo, thanks for coming on. How are you?

And where are you right now? I'm good. Nice to be here. Thanks for inviting. I'm actually

driving home from Helsinki. I'm actually driving home from Hellasinket.

And I'm going to Louisvascular.

So I'm somewhere in between the travel.

So you're doing this interview on the go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm driving my car and, yeah, I have my AirPods.

And, yeah. All right. Yeah, that's yeah, I'm driving my car and, yeah, I have my AirPods and yeah.

All right.

Yeah, that's how I was planning to do it somehow else, but something came up.

All right, all right.

So before we get to talk to manufacturing and all that, I want to talk about you first, Leo.

And I want to know what the heck

were you doing before this whole mountain bike thing was around? Before you started pole, what

were you doing for work? And where did you go to school and all of that stuff? My background is in

industrial design. So I'm an industrial designer.

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