Episode 131: Reconciling Our Expectations with God's Unfolding Plan (Derek Sainsbury)
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BYU Religious Education
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🗓️ 1 October 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
How do we reconcile our expectations with God's unfolding plan? In this episode, Professor Derek Sainsbury explores the remarkable life of Nancy Naomi Tracy–a woman whose unwavering faith and bold defense of religious liberty and temple service helped shape the early Latter-day Saint experience. Through persecution, political exile, and personal loss, Nancy remained devoted to the gospel. Professor Sainsbury draws from her writings and activism to reveal how she navigated the tension between personal hopes and divine direction, offering a compelling lens into the cost of conviction and the legacy of spiritual resilience.
Publications:
- "'We Have Not Been Allowed to Worship as We Please': Nancy Naomi Tracy and the Denial of Latter-day Saint Religious Liberty," in Religious Liberty and Latter-day Saints: Historical and Global Perspectives (Religious Studies Center, 2023)
- Joseph Smith as a Visionary: Heavenly Manifestations in the Latter Days (Religious Studies Center, 2025)
- "Befriending the Constitutional Law of the Land" in Doctrine and Coveants Insights: Capstone of Doctrinal Understanding (Religious Studies Center, 2025)
- Storming the Nation: The Unknown Contributions of Joseph Smith's Political Missionaries (Religious Studies Center, 2020)
- "'For the General Good of Mankind': Why Joseph Smith's Presidential Campaign Matters," Religious Educator, 21.3 (2020)
Click here to learn more about Derek Sainsbury
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, why religion friends, John Hilton here. |
| 0:02.8 | Several years ago, I gave a talk that focused on how when we keep the commandments, we're blessed. |
| 0:08.2 | I thought it was a great talk. |
| 0:09.8 | But afterwards, a woman handed me a note that said in part, |
| 0:14.2 | If the righteous are blessed and find success, |
| 0:17.7 | how come I have failed in every aspect of my life, no matter how hard I've tried and |
| 0:23.5 | how good I've been? Her words have never left me. I realized my talk wasn't that great after all. |
| 0:29.9 | I'd done a fine job of teaching about the blessings of obedience, which are real. But I hadn't |
| 0:35.2 | talked about how, in Elder Holland's words, some blessings come soon, some |
| 0:39.8 | blessings come late, and some don't come until heaven. |
| 0:43.9 | Scripture provides numerous examples of people whose lives did not turn out the way they |
| 0:47.9 | might have hoped. |
| 0:49.3 | Yes, Alma the younger repented, but Lehman and Lemuel brought no such happiness to their |
| 0:53.4 | father. Shadrach |
| 0:55.1 | Meshach and Abedigo escaped death but Abinandai was not so lucky while the sons of |
| 1:00.7 | Mosiah had great missionary success among the Lamanites Mormonites |
| 1:04.2 | watch the Lamanites destroy his people the reality is sometimes things do |
| 1:10.3 | not work out for the righteous immortality. |
| 1:12.6 | Even the greatest people often face horrific trials that do not go away. |
| 1:17.6 | And although this is not a pleasant concept, |
| 1:20.6 | better understanding how those with difficult lives are able to find strength in Jesus Christ |
| 1:25.6 | can bring us great peace. |
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