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Episode 130: Are Latter-day Saints Prone to Perfectionism? (Justin Dyer)

Y Religion

BYU Religious Education

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Perfectionism in adolescence can be a heavy, even isolating, burden—shaped by social media, identity pressures, and the overwhelming number of choices youth face. Amid these challenges the Doctrine and Covenants offers a powerful reminder: "Remember that the worth of souls is great in the sight of God" (18:10). This eternal truth stands out in contrast to the feeling standards of the world. In this episode Professor Justin Dyer explains how such expectations contribute to rising perfectionism among our youth. Drawing from BYU's Foundations data, he offers advice on how parents, teachers, and leaders can help youth navigate these pressures and find peace in eternal truths. By helping young people anchor their self-worth in truth, we can guide them away from toxic perfectionism and toward a life of purpose, peace, and resilience.

 

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0:00.0

Hello, why religion friends, John Hilton here.

0:02.8

Each episode of the Y-Religion podcast starts out with a little introduction like this one.

0:07.6

The version you hear hopefully sounds smooth and professional, but here's a secret.

0:12.1

It doesn't sound that way when I record it.

0:14.1

I make lots of verbal stumbles, and frequently I'll say something like, oh, stop the recording,

0:18.5

let me say that differently.

0:19.6

The OAU students like Jeremy Richards work as audio engineers for white religion to smooth out all those

0:25.1

errors to give us a clean, final recording. Now, that's probably a good idea for a podcast episode,

0:30.8

but this concept of using digital tools to create perfection, I'm using air quotes when I say

0:36.2

that, can cause problems. Tools like Photoshop or

0:40.4

curated social media pages can make everything look perfect, causing some people to wonder why

0:46.0

their life isn't perfect. Toxic perfectionism is a real challenge, and in recent years, it's gotten

0:51.6

worse. Some people have wondered if participating in organized

0:55.4

religion causes more issues with perfectionism because of the high standards of living

1:00.1

that are required. Others wonder if participating in religion leads to less perfectionism,

1:06.2

because you know that as a child of God you have infinite worth so you don't have to prove yourself to

1:11.7

others. So what is the impact of religion on toxic perfectionism? In religion we see that people

1:19.6

do tend to get the message to a greater degree that oh no matter what my performance I'm still

1:25.2

loved. So for example, Latter-day Saints, in our study,

1:29.0

12% were high in perfectionism. That's a lot. I think about my students, you know, 10%,

1:34.5

more than one out of 10 students that I have in class are high in toxic perfectionism.

1:39.4

At the same time, what we also found was that 20% of atheists and agnostics are high in toxic perfectionism.

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