Hello and welcome to another episode of Mindfulness Plus.

I'm your host Thomas Mconki.

Thanks so much for listening today.

I am especially delighted to be recording this

episode today with someone I regard as a dear friend, a mentor, a teacher, a sage, many things,

Dr. Terry O'Fallan. I want to introduce you and I almost don't know how to introduce you.

You've lived such a rich life and have had such a prolific career and I've had the privilege

of working by your side for many years now.

There's so much I could say about you, but you know, just for the audience, Terry is regarded and respected

as a preeminent expert worldwide in developmental psychology,

and especially adult development.

You know, the stages that all adults have the potential to grow into and express and explore in a lifetime.

And Terry's done a lot of really pioneering work in that area.

And I wanted to bring her on to Mindfulness Plus to share her wisdom and beauty with you all.

Terry O'Fallan, thank you.

So nice to be with you.

So nice to be with you, Tom.

I always enjoy the collaborations that we've done side by side. And of course, that means you're, you're, I elevate you to whatever you say about me is also you.

Thank you. Well, that's humbling. I thought an interesting place to start. I mean, this really struck me when I became familiar with your work.

You have a profound background in education, right?

And all kinds of education.

Maybe you could just say a little bit about where you started and bring us up a little closer to present.

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