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30 guys, I got, I had brought my little boy off at school.

We got, we're kind of one of these deals where I'm being Mr. Mom and bringing the

run of the kid.

So I was, I had to do that this morning.

So I barely made it here.

Just two seconds. No dramas. I pointed are already is, I don't know how it happened, but the, the calendar link pushed to like Google calendar, but it didn't push to my phone. So when I went to bed the night before, I'm like, oh, I'm good in the morning. And then you know how I was looking through the Instagram feed and you had a picture of me and the snake diet guy. And I'm like, oh, shit, what's going on here? And I'm like, oh, fuck, I have this. Well, that's what we thought. Yeah, Cole was interesting. He's an interesting guy. There's some similarities we'll need to get into. but hey Rob, I think, I don't know that we need to do an intro. I think anybody to listen to us knows, knows kind of who you are.

You've been on the scene for a long. Got my original Rob Wolf number of you. Right on. Nice. The original pseudoscience. Awesome. And, you know, but what I do, I think most people, you know, outside people you know you know outside the you know the kind

of the crazy vegan world where they think everybody that talks about meat are evil and crazy people

but i think most people in the in the in the nutrition space whether it's low carb paleo you know

most of them even most of many the mainstream uh nutrition people would consider you a

voice of reason and i certainly you know that's that's the impression I get. I mean, you're not one of these crazy guys. Like, there's a lot of crazy people out there. Some people think I'm crazy and stuff like that. But I mean, I think most people would say, Rob Wool's a pretty solid guy. I met you in person. We've got to hang out. And true to what your persona appears to be, you're the same

guy in real life. And I think that's great. But I do find that it, because someone like you is actually saying, hey, carnivore dice not totally crazy. I think that that kind of a little, validates it a little bit. Not that I think everybody needs to do that. And I've said that repeatedly. And I think you've kind of said,

hey, it's kind of a, you know,

it's an option for people.

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