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Krystal Kyle & Friends

Episode 127: Touré

Krystal Kyle & Friends

Krystal

News, Politics

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2023

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Touré joins us to discuss hip-hop’s political history.

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, buddy. Welcome to the show. Today we're going to be talking to Tarei, the one named wonder, sort of like Madonna, very powerful, powerful essence.

0:16.3

Yes, indeed. He has a new, really interesting podcast series. It's called Being Black the 80s with Torei, where he takes some of the most political music from the 80s and talks about like the social and cultural forces.

0:29.8

That we're going on at that time. So he talks about deindustrialization. He talks about the war on drugs and mass incarceration and what was going on with crack. He talks about life for working class black people in particular. So I was really excited to listen to this series because Torei and I we have known each other for a long time. We're very close and it is a really close meld of kind of his strengths, his passions, the things that he brings to the table because he has this unique crossover of being both a political commentary and also

0:59.8

common commentator. That's what I'm looking for and also cultural critics. So really cool series. And I will bring up my controversial music opinions to his face, not a fan of Jay Z, not a fan of Beyonce. I'll take Rihanna over Beyonce any day of the week. Jay Z has an annoying sounding voice. Chris Brown is the greatest R&B singer of all time. I'll bring all this up. Torei is going to have a lot of feelings about that. I mean, look, I'm a kid. I was born in 1988. I'm a child of the 90s. So to me, you're going to

1:29.8

little out of my depth once you go back to like, you know, 1980s rap, bring up like KRS one or run DMC and I'm like. Yeah, but there's also a piece of this that there's a capitalist critique as well. Because at that point, rap and hip hop had gone completely mainstream. Yes, more underground. It was more independent. Yeah. So there were more radical songs and lyrics that were permitted versus what

2:00.0

comes out today. True, which is all, you know, mass market. Yeah, he talks about, you know, at that point, rap really was predominantly for the black community. Now it's for a very mainstream audience. And that also changes like who you're marketing yourself to. Yeah, the beats back then were trash, though. I'll just say it. I mean, seriously, you're going to hold a candle like Stillgeray. That beat. I mean, you play that today. You could a baby would be like, you know, crazy, crazy good beat. All right. Anyway.

2:29.5

So we'll get into that with Taree. It should be fun. Yeah, before we do that, we got a bunch of stuff to dive into. So, oh, yeah. So, um, Trump was indicted. We talked about that the other day. Yeah, on secular talk also on breaking points. You got to talk about it. And second indictment now. Seven charges. He's being brought up on. And over the class by documents case, in particular, that's like, you know, the Genesis and the heart of this. They're going after him for obstruction. All sorts of stuff. But vis-a-vis that issue.

2:56.9

Uh, well, Rhonda Santas, as you predicted, by the way, yeah, I mean, it wasn't Instacuck. It didn't take a genius to see what he was going to. He woke up in the morning and chugged a giant juice, a giant glass of Instacuck juice.

3:10.9

And so he comes out and says the weaponization of federal law enforcement represents a mortal threat to a free society. We have for years witnessed an uneven application of the law, depending upon political affiliation. I'm going to come back to that point in a second.

3:25.9

Why so zealous in pursuing Trump yet so passive about Hillary or Hunter? The DeSantis administration will bring accountability to the DOJ, excise political bias, and end weaponization once and for all.

3:37.9

So, first of all, the idea of a two-tier justice system is based on political affiliation. To the extent we have a two-tier justice system, which we do, there's a class angle to it. And there's also a racial angle to it. The idea that it's like, you guys go way too hard on Republicans and way too soft on Democrats.

3:54.9

I just don't fundamentally do not buy that. I don't buy that for a second. The reason why if Trump handed over all the documents when he was told he got hand over all the documents, we'd be done because he has the privilege of being a former president and they're going to bend over backwards to not go after him.

4:09.9

But since he went the extra mile to spit in their eye, snub his nose up at the process, hide the documents, do all sorts of sketchy stuff. That's why he is where he is. He has nobody blame but Donald Trump.

4:20.9

The other thing I would say is if you were going to make an argument about a political bias, it would definitely go in the other direction. And you can compare the law enforcement treatment of left-wing protesters versus the law enforcement treatment of right-wing protesters on January 6th.

4:37.9

Like if it was Antifa that was storming into the Capitol, do you think they would have been like let around on a sightseeing tour the way that some of the January 6th people were and barricades open for them, etc.

4:47.9

Exactly. So he comes out and says this, thinking, the political logic of it, like him and his staffers are idiots. Here you have an opportunity at the very least to go out there and be like, look, I'm going to no drama candidate. If you want to win, if you're serious about winning, I'm the guy.

5:05.9

I don't have two indictments. I'm not going to end up in prison. So maybe I'm a guy.

5:09.9

I don't think you could do that politically though. I mean, that's the problem.

5:12.9

But that's the weak argument. He's not even going in in that scenario.

5:15.9

But remember, last time when the, I believe it was when Mar-a-Lago was raided, DeSantis tried to just not say anything. And it became a huge political problem for him instantly.

5:27.9

And he was super late to saying anything. And then ultimately because there was so much pressure on him, he ends up cutting himself.

5:34.9

I don't think there's a lane to win in the Republican base by going against Donald Trump on these charges. But then that just demonstrates there is no lane really to win in the Republican primary at all.

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